tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4682595924476788450.post2725639640863902951..comments2023-12-20T04:00:48.837-08:00Comments on Justice Denied: An open letter to judge Jacqueline DaviesFlayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07389779350824751473noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4682595924476788450.post-75983699537616731742010-11-12T06:23:58.301-08:002010-11-12T06:23:58.301-08:00Excellent article. Especially para 5, it's ast...Excellent article. Especially para 5, it's astonishing that Davies can believe anyone else except her believed it to be 'clearly menacing'.<br><br>She's on another planet.Dick Puddlecotehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01481866882188932892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4682595924476788450.post-10967050013817832462010-11-12T06:27:01.188-08:002010-11-12T06:27:01.188-08:00This is excellent. Will you be posting the judgeme...This is excellent. Will you be posting the judgement here when you have it? I'd be very interested to read it. <br><br>The whole trial, and particularly yesterday's judgement, actually leaves me ashamed to have studied law at University. I'm certainly happy that I didn't pursue a career in the field.Memories by Fionchaddhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07809960349336285835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4682595924476788450.post-10751928873919266022010-11-12T06:31:00.259-08:002010-11-12T06:31:00.259-08:00I'd be interested to hear any response - this ...I'd be interested to hear any response - this is so well put that I have difficulty seeing how anyone could read it and believe the judge to be correct. However there's none so blind...Amyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13948886966363895454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4682595924476788450.post-26003223302246184372010-11-12T06:42:33.081-08:002010-11-12T06:42:33.081-08:00I want the names of those menaced, otherwise, ther...I want the names of those menaced, otherwise, there is no crimeOld Holbornhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10164491045068093627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4682595924476788450.post-41692627952645632202010-11-12T06:43:49.788-08:002010-11-12T06:43:49.788-08:00excellent. it says everything i feel about this.we...excellent. it says everything i feel about this.<br>well written. and hopefully will reach it's intended recipient.Paula Maherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13726120116796848031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4682595924476788450.post-20882618069360077832010-11-12T06:49:10.166-08:002010-11-12T06:49:10.166-08:00Incredible lucid post - more than I could manage. ...Incredible lucid post - more than I could manage. Thank you for writing it.just-ramble-onhttp://just-ramble-on.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4682595924476788450.post-25501559692375421322010-11-12T06:49:10.165-08:002010-11-12T06:49:10.165-08:00Very few could have written this better. Your effo...Very few could have written this better. Your efforts to help Mr Chambers' tragic, underserved and downright absurd plight are admirable Mr Flaherty. I sincerely hope, despite Judge Davies' completely ridiculous decision yesterday severely harming my faith in the common sense of the authorities, that those efforts will not be in vain. I would LOVE to read Davies' reply, should she ever manage to think of a remotely valid counter argument to this one you present here. Such is the calibre of your letter, it's a sizeable task for ANYBODY, let alone someone clearly as daft as Davies.Arron Palmerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08491450168721807402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4682595924476788450.post-75848865998991391912010-11-12T06:50:50.304-08:002010-11-12T06:50:50.304-08:00Wonderful! Very well said. You speak for so many p...Wonderful! Very well said. You speak for so many people.ladycraftholehttp://ladycrafthole.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4682595924476788450.post-7006420297320466142010-11-12T06:53:34.000-08:002010-11-12T06:53:34.000-08:00Just to clarify something - when she ruled that hi...Just to clarify something - when she ruled that his previous consistent statements were self-serving, she was dealing with a matter of evidence, namely that you cannot bring in the fact that your story hasn't changed because that does nothing to prove that your story is true. Your story could be equally true or false if it were consistent. On the other hand, if his story had changed, that could be brought in to show inconsistency. That part of the judgement was nothing personally against the defendant, she was just adhering to the rules of evidence.Georgehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16563643930302308835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4682595924476788450.post-62331138415608709782010-11-12T06:59:41.741-08:002010-11-12T06:59:41.741-08:00Excellent letter. I support every single word.Excellent letter. I support every single word.Billy Blofeldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02973682006107803539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4682595924476788450.post-54174083141149640472010-11-12T07:04:58.122-08:002010-11-12T07:04:58.122-08:00Excellent first draft, and some good points.I woul...Excellent first draft, and some good points.<br><br>I would edit it down a bit to make it clearer, and if possible combine forces with the ipetitions site. Add people's signatures to increase its impact. <br><br>Marymaryrperkinshttp://maryrperkins.livejournal.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4682595924476788450.post-17375125806309428642010-11-12T07:14:16.810-08:002010-11-12T07:14:16.810-08:00Brilliantly said. I hope that this letter shines a...Brilliantly said. <br><br>I hope that this letter shines a little light into that dark spot that is judge Jacqueline Davies' mind.twaza (@wassabeee on twitter)http://www.blogger.com/profile/11078200068429582694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4682595924476788450.post-48281332995420606182010-11-12T07:17:08.595-08:002010-11-12T07:17:08.595-08:00Fantastic article, well written.Fantastic article, well written.Stevenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06988946705022875131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4682595924476788450.post-36776639498291237402010-11-12T07:25:03.580-08:002010-11-12T07:25:03.580-08:00This judge would have half the users of the Intern...This judge would have half the users of the Internet as criminals. Has she ever seen what is on the Internet?<br><br>This law was not created to be so badly misinterpreted, she has let society down.<br><br>The problem with an independent Judiciary is that one appointed it is very hard to remove those who are not up to the job. We need to address that.rolo_tamasihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12780549356275824765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4682595924476788450.post-74393312383157404662010-11-12T07:27:40.715-08:002010-11-12T07:27:40.715-08:00As it's a 1st draft I would say that perhaps t...As it's a 1st draft I would say that perhaps the 2nd draft should cut out the personal attacks and hyperbole - "disgraceful", "affront", "illiberal". The sentence "I feel duty bound to inform you that I find not only your judgement but you yourself to be an affront to justice and a disgrace to the bench that you adorn" is particularly cringe-making. How is it that you assume this duty? Also, being a lawyer who deals with a lot of discrimination cases, the notion of a female judge "adorning" the bench rather than just sitting on it made my hackles rise (reasonably or unreasonably I don't know, but it is as well to be careful).<br><br>You have some good points to make, so don't ruin it by being needlessly personal or ludicrously hyperbolic.Vaughan Strakerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11824089241258963564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4682595924476788450.post-48520490488726442662010-11-12T07:37:50.577-08:002010-11-12T07:37:50.577-08:00ha ha, yes I love it, but really, to assume the ju...ha ha, yes I love it, but really, to assume the judge herself is of sound mind and reads the papers and watches TV is an error of judgment of your own. Don't you remember the High Court Judge who asked several decades ago, who are these 'Beatles' ?<br><br>Good article, but sadly the law is a closed door and the poor chap is done for (that's a legal expression)... sickening times we live in ...Peachnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4682595924476788450.post-7842470100449850252010-11-12T07:39:32.679-08:002010-11-12T07:39:32.679-08:00Hi Vaughan,It was never my intention to give a sex...Hi Vaughan,<br><br>It was never my intention to give a sexist slant. I was looking for a better verb than "warm". Because as I see it she did little more than that. I have no duty other than that of an outraged citizen. I do not wish to tone down any aspect of the feeling in this piece. None of it is needlessly personal. I was there. Thanks.<br><br>Regards,<br>MattFlayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17240490638654621405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4682595924476788450.post-25922190512192589532010-11-12T07:59:32.040-08:002010-11-12T07:59:32.040-08:00I think the judgement in this case was unimpressiv...I think the judgement in this case was unimpressively witless.Krebiozenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17926029995286059099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4682595924476788450.post-19136479244284303632010-11-12T08:53:53.592-08:002010-11-12T08:53:53.592-08:00Wonderfully argued, lucid letter- thanks so much f...Wonderfully argued, lucid letter- thanks so much for writing it. I was appalled yesterday when I heard about the decision. I can only hope this reaches her.sjmhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10396258586047238261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4682595924476788450.post-58701236717027736302010-11-12T09:11:21.920-08:002010-11-12T09:11:21.920-08:00Excellent post, thanks - She's an utter disgra...Excellent post, thanks - She's an utter disgraceBasiclifehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07997010407622406764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4682595924476788450.post-90450067389612666182010-11-12T09:17:52.497-08:002010-11-12T09:17:52.497-08:00don't ruin it by being needlessly personal or ...<i>don't ruin it by being needlessly personal or ludicrously hyperbolic</i><br><br>He's writing an open letter, not presenting a piece of evidence. I think Matt echoes the anger and frustation many people feel. I'd have had trouble reining in my fury as much as he has.Rhodrihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02500972224558889901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4682595924476788450.post-59064674226227199532010-11-12T09:17:52.496-08:002010-11-12T09:17:52.496-08:00A brilliant exposé of the bankruptcy of this judic...A brilliant exposé of the bankruptcy of this judicial process. Well said. And, pace Vaughan, this is not a submission in court: it is a measured, if emotionally charged, response to what took place in court.billynojobhttp://billynojob.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4682595924476788450.post-21427913175956517362010-11-12T09:20:55.833-08:002010-11-12T09:20:55.833-08:00A wonderful piece. Thank you so much for writing i...A wonderful piece. Thank you so much for writing it. You were not the only one feeling queasy throughout yesterday, and anyone who cares about freedom is probably still feeling sick to their stomachs. This is an important case for freedom of expression, and I do hope Paul Chambers can find the strength to fight on. <br>Adam_psAdamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06603661094559380110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4682595924476788450.post-37324974032935123482010-11-12T10:18:00.748-08:002010-11-12T10:18:00.748-08:00Thanks everyone. Adam, were you there yesterday? M...Thanks everyone. Adam, were you there yesterday? Might I have met you? Yes I do still feel a tad unwell. May be somewhat related to late night and drinking in London though. ;-)Flayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17240490638654621405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4682595924476788450.post-13844551091785806382010-11-12T10:22:57.227-08:002010-11-12T10:22:57.227-08:00Hear, hear. I hope she reads this and is deeply as...Hear, hear. I hope she reads this and is deeply ashamed. <br><br>Hopefully justice will prevail in the end for Paul but that it has come to this at all is truly sinister.abhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01227020748232928739noreply@blogger.com